I generally don’t watch Tyler Perry’s stuff because I really have a problem with a man running around in drag making black women look crazy.
My husband told me this evening to check out “Why did I get married”. He thought it was funny. Perhaps because I’m not a Tyler fan, I was annoyed by it. [hopefully my husband won't see this entry. LOL!]
I think I now realize what is going on with Tyler Perry. He has never seen a model of a normal black family. He apparently has no idea what a happy, stable family looks like.
That entire movie was just dysfunctional drama and insanity. Contrary to Perry’s belief, there ARE normal black people in this country. There are blacks who are happy and fulfilled. There are black women who are not loud and obnoxious.
I like to point people in the direction of our president, Barack Obama. That’s a stable, functional black family. I grew up around stable families. I come from a stable family.
The women in the movie were devils. The men were dogs. Devils and dogs. Oh, and of course the religious fanatic who went overboard and was sooooooooo heavenly that she was not much earthly good.
Yes, drama must appear in movies; otherwise they will be boring. But in the scheme of things I’d rather see a good plot, some stable black families and some twists filled with drama.
There is a scene in the movie that shows a brother on the phone warning a friend that his wife actually cooked for him. He alerted the friend that if he died, the wife did it. That scene appeared lifted directly from a scene that I once saw on the Martin comedy when Martin thought that Gina was trying to kill him.
As I said, perhaps Tyler is doing the best he can do. But his best is not good enough for me.
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I agree with your views Lynn! I could never get into watching House of Payne for teh same reason! They were just so disfunctional on so many levels to me. I grew up in foster Care, but now that I am trying to live a holy life, listening to God isn’t so hard. I am thankful to God that He teaches us how a family is supposed to be!
Long time, no see OneMom! Happy to see you.
It was a LONG time before I rented “Family Reunion” and “Diary of a Mad Black Woman.” It just didn’t appeal to me. I ended up liking both very much.
After a LONG time I saw “Why Did I Get Married.” That show had my spirit “tight” the whole time, just like when you’re a room with vengeful, spiteful people. I did not like it at all.
Well when Madea Goes to Jail came out, I was thinking it would come across to me the same way the 1st two I mentioned did. DID NOT. Tyler’s whole persona has changed, although he was in the role of “Madea” I could not help but to see/hear the arrogance coming thru the screen. It wasn’t the same Madea that was in the 1st two I mentioned.
I looked at his appearance and he was using even more profanity and lewd comments. Very distasteful.
As far as House of Payne, I’ve been able to stomach about 3 episodes. Digging through all the fakeness, kids cussing their parents (Tyler, have you lost your mind to portray such a hideous thing as comedy when parents are in the fight of their lives to bring up half way respectful kids?) no feeling of “family”, smart comments to each other all the time and I just can’t do it.
I think Tyler is well aware he’s “in” now. All he has to do is put something out there and faithful blacks race, rant and rave for it.
I do remember that scene from Martin and yes, it looks very similar.
But I guess that’s no surprise, Lynn. I mean, how long can we portray black families/couples so idiocly and NOT run out of something original.
There ARE happy, competent couples and families and for those who didn’t see it modeled, we have enough sense and a deep enough quest for life to know that this isn’t all that there is and keep upholding a standard until these kinds of norms take over our lives.
He’s made his millions. I wish he would sit down somewhere and start divvying it out in areas where there is no hope and I hope he’s not just storing up to appear in Forbes.
Hello:
This weblog speaks about the Tyler Perry phenomenon much better than I can: http://pure-truth1.blogspot.com/search?q=tyler+perry
But allow me to say this. Tyler Perry’s agenda is to promote and normalize homosexuality. Homosexuals know that their lifestyle is perverse. So, the first step to promoting and normalizing homosexuality is to convince people that heterosexuality is just as perverse and dysfunctional. It’s been going on in mainstream (white) Hollywood for years. Think about it: when was the last movie or TV sitcom that you can think of that portrayed a normal functional family with two strong parents and well behaved respectful children? The feminists and gay rights activists started protesting against those years ago, claiming that it was discriminatory to single mothers – and to homosexuals. So now, TV shows depict family life as chaotic, depressing and repressive (especially for women), make the kids disrespectful, rebellious and undisciplined (and smarter than the parents) and depict fathers and husbands as imbeciles, overgrown children, and borderline dangerous personalities that the wives and mothers have to “raise” along with the other kids.
What Tyler Perry is doing is creating a black church scene where it will be safe for people like him to be out of the closet 10-20 years from now, and he is using the same media tactics that white homosexuals and feminists have been using to attack white middle class and suburban family life for years.
Thanks Job. I’ve seen much that was in this link elsewhere. Right off the bat, there is NO REASON a man has to put a dress, lipstick and portray to be a woman. Period. So through the eyes of a young boy/man, what message does that send? Does that tell them that this is the way to “get out of the hood” and make your ends?
He could have just as simply named everything “Uncle Pete’s” family reunion, etc. Why a woman? The “good” men in these movies were always financially poor (think about the one who married the victim in Diary, the one who was only a bus driver in Family Reunion). Why is it that only those who were dogs, abusive, adulterers, etc had plenty of success and money? Is that not saying that if you do the right thing and marry one woman, be a father figure to any children she already has and reman faithful that you’re destined to be an hourly laborer and that’s all?
Strong message.
I saw in Essence when Tyler was featured about looking for Mrs. Right…the cover struck me as fake, as only a story. The pics told it all. I’m a woman and I know the “pull” that” exists between a man and woman. Every photo showed that he wasn’t the least bit interested and only posing for the photo – cover story or cover up?
I read that Bishop Jakes’ endorses homosexuality and have listened to his preaching. I read many articles that links him to it, and many, many others. Over the years, its greatly lost potency. Weak, washed out, all grace and no punishment gospel?
Yeah that began to happen around the time his son went public.
I got a call the other day that a friend of mine found out her husband is gay. I was surprised that later that day the weeping and crying that came out of me as I began to ask the Lord, “what is going to become of us?”
What are the women supposed to do?
How does a boy become a man and his daddy lives with his boyfriend?
This wasn’t even me and I was broken all over my house and couldn’t pull myself together.
Who is the next unsuspecting young lady who wants to be married and raise a family, only to find out she now has HIV cause her husband was gay all along?
We’re in trouble folks. There is a sit com where 4 gays set out to actually turn straights gay. I have sons and I don’t know of a safe place for them.
Gym at school? Football team? When a spirit is in a house…the children are the most vulnerable. They go to school with that on them and on and on.
As I pondered the great names/people in our day and time and felt down because no one wants to stand because so many want the lime light and fame, the Lord reminded me and I sighed in relief and I understood that many dynasties and risen and come to nought. That’s my only consolation.
Job,
That was one of the best breakdowns and explanations of the homosexual agenda that I have ever seen.
It was such a joke (but not in a funny way) to see Tyler Perry playing the part of a heterosexual when it’s clear that the man wants no part of a woman.
The entire movie was one drama filled, hate filled, perversion filled scene after another. It was not funny to me.
I think “Why did I get married ” was his best movie
Which aint saying much.
Good point, Cop.
okay I “got a lot to say”….Tyler was not very believable as a heterosexual; even with him pretending to get upset if he wasn’t going to “get any” from his wife…I just don’t like when women are always portrayed badly when they are successful. Tyler’s wife’s gets her tubes tied without telling him, Janet Jackson forgets to put her baby in a car seat and it dies; the business owner with the hair salon was ghetto, a drunk, loud, demeaning to her man, promiscuous STD ridden. Jill Scott’s friend showed no respect for friendship and that black women can’t trust each other; come on black woman do you know that would allow her husband to stay on the plane with another woman and get off the plane (give me a break!) the husband no regard for her feelings. Jill Scott low self esteem; then it was a big stretch for her to find a man in the mountains of Denver who just happened to be single and not sure she took time to heal before jumping into another relathionship…then when she does get some self respect resorts to violence; I liked this one better than the others because it at least showed all of them married, having get togethers and doing some things out of the oridnary…but as you said Lynn, he doesn’t have a good image of a family and neither does his best friend Oprah…You know we all love and respect Oprah, but I am tired of her too, once she put the seal of approval on Tyler’s mess, the majority begin to go watch it…I remember when I went to see the last one (Ma Dea goes to Jail “lynn you may want to see if for a real commentary on tyler’s dysfunction, this took the cake”) I could right a doctoral thesis on that one:) The Caucasians were laughing louder than anyone else and saying to their friends who hadn’t heard of Madea and see MaDea I told you it was funny and they laughed at stuff we would never find funny….
I have never watched house of payne…but all of Tyler’s leading men characters in house of payne and the browns are (excuse me this is no disrepect) are overweight , darkskinned and ignorant (i.e.black face; I can’t stand that brown character). When they showed Tyler on Blacks in America he tried to justify his actions by pointing to the roles that mya angelou and cicely tyson played, but who remembers those soliloqys (sp?) they were what all of two minutes in the movies…when the black professor called him on it…Tyler’s argument didn’t hold weight….
Cop…Agreed, I was at a large black church in Louisville, KY back in January and they had a male dressed like Madea playing a role to announce what the coming attractions were and I am like ” I cannot believe they have a man dressed like a lady in the pulpit in this character acting Madeaish”; it just put me in a bad place and then I begin to dissect everything else, not what I am supposed to be doing in the house of the Lord…So, it has spread and I don’t think it will be another 10-20 years, there are pockets of it now….Sometimes I feel like those who take a stand, will have to be like the old church that had to meet secretly for being persecutive for beliefs about homosexuality and that it is a sin in God’s site. I pray for strength everyday that I will be able to make a stand and say what thus says the Lord whenever I am called upon; and not deny the Lord in my daily interactions in the work environment, socially and wherever the Lord places….
Unfortunately, Mr. Perry is in the process of making Why Did I Get Married 2. I agree that this was one of his best movies, as far as cinamatography goes. The jury is still out for me as far as the content.
There were somethings in the movie that I did like and some things I did not like but Oregansistah brings up some good points about the way he portrays women in this movie and his others. I am thinking about Daddy’s Little Girls, which I did not watch, but I recall in the trailer and commercials that the female love interest was a lawyer and again Perry made her very bitchy and cold, Im assuming that did not last since she ended up with the guy in the end.
I do know that I really cant tolerate his movies more than once. I just cant tolerate the coonish slant of the movies and plays. If he moves away from that and does something different, he will be on to something, but the same old same old is not getting it anymore. I think its time for us to move above and beyond what others think of us and start defining ourselves instead of being defined by others and then subscribing to that in our actions, music and movies, etc… Its high time for us to take charge of our own image.